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Post by LLI on May 2, 2020 5:54:05 GMT
Hi, I like the stopmotion contests as I think everyone here does, but I think the format should change and have one like the one Mad Reaper used on The Custom Underground where he divided the participants in to Amateur and Professional, so there 2 different winners (in case you are only doing the first place) the Amateur winners and the Professional winners. Because like in the last contest of the Panama Sunrise,I lost motivation when I saw LMS, ARW and ESP animations (first of all Congrats to you) but don't get me wrong I dont have anything against you all, I know you have worked so hard to be the good you are, but like me and other animators that dont have as much experience, we know that right now its almost or even impossible to beat you. I just want to make the competition more fair and competitive. I hope you can understand my POV and if you do I think ESP and/or STG, that are the channels with the most views from this forum, could implement my idea.
Have a nice day!!!!
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Post by arw on May 2, 2020 6:03:13 GMT
Hi, I like the stopmotion contests as I think everyone here does, but I think the format should change and have one like the one Mad Reaper used on The Custom Underground where he divided the participants in to Amateur and Professional, so there 2 different winners (in case you are only doing the first place) the Amateur winners and the Professional winners. Because like in the last contest of the Panama Sunrise,I lost motivation when I saw LMS, ARW and ESP animations (first of all Congrats to you) but don't get me wrong I dont have anything against you all, I know you have worked so hard to be the good you are, but like me and other animators that dont have as much experience, we know that right now its almost or even impossible to beat you. I just want to make the competition more fair and competitive. I hope you can understand my POV and if you do I think ESP and/or STG, that are the channels with the most views from this forum, could implement my idea. Have a nice day!!!! I hardly have experience. 11 months tomorrow. I see where you are heading on the idea. But i feel suplex does 100% his opinion. If it were done by voting, i can see the multiple brackets. Also, doing brackets would create 6 places. Its not impossible to beat us, nor hard if u keep to it. Set ur mind. U will get on top 3 before u know it |
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Post by LLI on May 2, 2020 6:13:26 GMT
Hi, I like the stopmotion contests as I think everyone here does, but I think the format should change and have one like the one Mad Reaper used on The Custom Underground where he divided the participants in to Amateur and Professional, so there 2 different winners (in case you are only doing the first place) the Amateur winners and the Professional winners. Because like in the last contest of the Panama Sunrise,I lost motivation when I saw LMS, ARW and ESP animations (first of all Congrats to you) but don't get me wrong I dont have anything against you all, I know you have worked so hard to be the good you are, but like me and other animators that dont have as much experience, we know that right now its almost or even impossible to beat you. I just want to make the competition more fair and competitive. I hope you can understand my POV and if you do I think ESP and/or STG, that are the channels with the most views from this forum, could implement my idea. Have a nice day!!!! I hardly have experience. 11 months tomorrow. I see where you are heading on the idea. But i feel suplex does 100% his opinion. If it were done by voting, i can see the multiple brackets. Also, doing brackets would create 6 places. Its not impossible to beat us, nor hard if u keep to it. Set ur mind. U will get on top 3 before u know it thank you!!!! But I think it aint that difficult, because we all know who are the better animators( I think I didnt explain myself correctly, because my first Language aint english) not divide us into brackets, only divide the winners into professional and amateur, like you, RAW, ESP,STG easily enter into the professional,because you animate almost everyday or sometimes everyday, but I dont, Im an amateur. |
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Post by arw on May 2, 2020 6:18:58 GMT
I hardly have experience. 11 months tomorrow. I see where you are heading on the idea. But i feel suplex does 100% his opinion. If it were done by voting, i can see the multiple brackets. Also, doing brackets would create 6 places. Its not impossible to beat us, nor hard if u keep to it. Set ur mind. U will get on top 3 before u know it thank you!!!! But I think it aint that difficult, because we all know who are the better animators( I think I didnt explain myself correctly, because my first Language aint english) not divide us into brackets, only divide the winners into professional and amateur, like you, RAW, ESP,STG easily enter into the professional,because you animate almost everyday or sometimes everyday, but I dont, Im an amateur. I guarantee they dont animate daily. Lol. I see where you are heading but dividing winners would be unfair to a different level. If someone with little experience is still insanely good, and they choose "amateur" as they have say... 8 months of experience, itd be an easy win if they are just that good. Experience isnt always how good you are. |
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Post by LLI on May 2, 2020 6:23:23 GMT
thank you!!!! But I think it aint that difficult, because we all know who are the better animators( I think I didnt explain myself correctly, because my first Language aint english) not divide us into brackets, only divide the winners into professional and amateur, like you, RAW, ESP,STG easily enter into the professional,because you animate almost everyday or sometimes everyday, but I dont, Im an amateur. I guarantee they dont animate daily. Lol. I see where you are heading but dividing winners would be unfair to a different level. If someone with little experience is still insanely good, and they choose "amateur" as they have say... 8 months of experience, itd be an easy win of they are just that good. Experience isnt always how good you are. ok Im getting your point I started animating like 5 or 4 years ago (with rumblers with almost no articulation and now going back into those animations I realize it was more a Pic fed than stopmotion)and Im not that good. |
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Post by ESP on May 2, 2020 11:28:16 GMT
I respect your opinion and like that you care enough to give suggestions, however, I think part of the appeal of a forum is that you get the chance to compete against people who may be higher in quality than you, this should motivate you rather than hurt your motivation. We have a small community here, and splitting that would thin the roster out too much, and for me (and I’m sure others too) would kill some of the fun, because personally I love competing with animators of all different quality and experience.
Look at ARW, he had to work hard in a lot of matches here before he got a win, but it motivated him to keep going because he had something to aim for, getting that first W.
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Post by droopydropp on May 2, 2020 15:28:35 GMT
I see where your coming from. But I agree that the community is so small it would be hard to split. I have been doing this since 2011 and still don't have a win lol. It may take a while to get a win or it may not. But you only get better by versing the veterans. Quick story I remember I versed LKS on RA and the move was a angle slam off the top rope on to weapons. Of course he won and he probably still doesn't know who I am but I looked at his animation and saw why it was better then mine. So in my opinion, it might help animators by versing someone with a lot more experience. Maybe we can do more tag matches and have a rookie and a vet verse a rookie and a vet. But I do get where ur coming from and respect ur opinion. BTW do u have a link to ur channel would love to check it out.
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Post by LLI on May 2, 2020 16:44:33 GMT
I see where your coming from. But I agree that the community is so small it would be hard to split. I have been doing this since 2011 and still don't have a win lol. It may take a while to get a win or it may not. But you only get better by versing the veterans. Quick story I remember I versed LKS on RA and the move was a angle slam off the top rope on to weapons. Of course he won and he probably still doesn't know who I am but I looked at his animation and saw why it was better then mine. So in my opinion, it might help animators by versing someone with a lot more experience. Maybe we can do more tag matches and have a rookie and a vet verse a rookie and a vet. But I do get where ur coming from and respect ur opinion. BTW do u have a link to ur channel would love to check it out. thank you everyone for your feedback and reasons to understand the purpose of the contests and the forum. |
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Post by rawstopmotions on May 3, 2020 13:32:42 GMT
I know I’m late to this, but ur not exclusively animating against opponents that are more experienced. You choose who you fight, you can challenge people. So far I’ve gotten pretty lucky with my wins and I’m not gonna deny it, but you have to learn from other animators as well. I watch and watch STG and ESP’s animations for pacing, I watch ARW and LMS’s for movement. I watch everyone’s animations to learn, and that’s put me in a pretty good position so far. I think that if you don’t go against people who are currently better than you, than there’s less improvement possible on your end.
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